A response to Scott...

My former co-blogger, Scott recently jumped on the “FireFox Rules; IE is dead” bandwagon.  In the post he simple posts stats that don’t represent me.  So while I can’t really respond to the stats except to say this… If FireFox is superior then it will win right?  Ever here of BETAMAX, or MiniDisc?  Need I say more.

My experience is different.  I used FireFox for the longest time, and even switched quite a few people over during the whole Phoenix/FireBird timeframe of the product.  With the more reccent releases, I’ve found it to be buggy and a memory hog (I don’t need to reference Ray’s hugely popular post, do I?)  So in the last couple months I’ve started looking for a better browser.  What do I want?  I want tabs!  It has to do with the way that I search….

So obviously IE6 is out.  A couple months ago I installed the IE7 beta and absolutely loved it!  It was way more stable than FireFox, and I had my tabs and a bunch of other things, but since I’m a consultant who has to test projects, I needed to make sure that IE6 still works.

So recently I have found the coolest browser.  And no it’s not an MS product (but IE7 will be my browser when it is released).  I recently discovered K-Meleon (another Mozilla project that is compiled without the Cross-OS crap… It only works in a Win32 environment).  It appears to not have the memory issues that FireFox has… so when I search… I search with K-Meleon.

Final thoughts
In all of this, there is a more important issue.  Does the browser really matter?  I personally don’t think it does… well, unless you are supporting Macs and then the browser is extremely important (Safari sucks!  There I got that out of my system).  The browsers are for the most part equal.

This whole craze of people who are still trying to build full blown apps on web sites when what they really want is a desktop app (KDE, Windows Forms, Java Swing, Cocoa, etc.) just doesn’t make sense to me (and I’m a web guy).

[tags:browser wars,FireFox,K-Meleon,IE7]

Print | posted on Thursday, August 24, 2006 2:28 PM

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# re: A response to Scott...

left by at 8/24/2006 3:24 PM Gravatar

Just FYI, here's CodeBetter's Breakdown for the month of August so far...

Internet Explorer: 72,914 (64.59%)

Firefox: 35,751 (31.67%)

Opera: 2,140 (1.90%)

Safari: 819 (0.73%)

# re: A response to Scott...

left by at 8/24/2006 3:56 PM Gravatar

one of the problems is with end-user perception.  I've been trying to push a smart client version of our application to our sales/marketing guys for the last 3 months and they just won't bite.  I've even talked to a few customers and they say the same thing.  They want zero-deployment.  They want to be able to sit down at a computer and immediately start using our application, regardless that a smart client version could be installed from a hyperlink and regardless that a smart client would have a richer UI.

The web has become ubiquitous and customers expect apps to be accessible from the web.  The perception is that only "monolithic/legacy" apps (accounting, Office, HR, etc) are actually installed (and they say that word with a sour taste in their mouths).

# re: A response to Scott...

left by at 8/24/2006 3:56 PM Gravatar

Not sure if you realized this or not, but if you install the MSN Search Toolbar on IE, you can have tabs right in IE6.  You don't even need to have the toolbar visible.

Checkout: toolbar.live.com

# re: A response to Scott...

left by at 8/24/2006 5:11 PM Gravatar

I'm with you Jay.  I'm a geek that doesn't see that much difference in my choice of browser. I personally still use IE6 for much of my browsing.  I have used firefox quite extensively and it's fine, but I just don't get all that excited about it.  I have used IE7 beta quite a bit and look forward to the final release, but all in all my choice of browser hasn't mattered too much to me.

# re: A response to Scott...

left by at 8/24/2006 5:46 PM Gravatar

I didn't know that Tim... downloading now!

# re: A response to Scott...

left by at 8/26/2006 1:25 AM Gravatar

I'll just throw in a vote for Maxthon - it's a wrapper around IE that does tabs and a helluva lot more. Since it uses the IE control to render, it's as compatible as IE. It even works with IE7. Only downside is that it doesn't support most of the IE toolbars (if you want that sort of thing). It does, however, have it's own extension model - so there's plenty of addons to choose from (again, if you're into that).

All I want from a browser is tabs (on the bottom please!), speed, compatiblity, and low memory usage. Maxthon bests Firefox on all of those points.

As someone who's been using a tabbed browser since '98 (way before Mozilla), it's indispensable. If you're like most geeks, you spend 90% of your day in front of a PC, with a browser open most of the time...why not get the best there is?

# re: A response to Scott...

left by at 8/26/2006 3:49 AM Gravatar

The fact that Firefox doesn't even allow flash by default makes it a huge step backwards if you ask me. The web is supposed to be getting smarter and richer not dumber. What really (and i mean REALLY) p*sses me off are the sites that refuse to allow you access unless you're running firefox. Given they only have about 10% of the share that makes absolute no sense and is just plain stupid.

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