Clarification on POUT... POUT != Test Last...

[Editted this... sometimes I need to turn off the "smack down" and resist the urge to do what appears to be flaming... I didn't really mean to] 

Ok, I'm throwing this out there for Jacob.  I just read where someone created (an excellent article on) yet another Testing acronym.  The post, BTW, is well thought except that I THINK he misses the point of what POUT is (and he has comments turned off so I can't slap him for missing Jacob's point).  He lumps POUT in with the test-last crowd (which I know I am sometimes a part of).  He claims that POUT is a subset of his new acronym which takes into account both testing first and testing last.  POUT according to Jacob's excellent post on it is Automated Unit Testing at anytime (so it could be TDD, or TAD).  The actual quote here is this

"I think some of the confusion with TDD discussions is that TDD is an intensified version of POUT." 

So TDD is a form of POUT [again, this is my interpretation... Troy feels that Jacob leaves some doubt... and Jacob seems to back that up, so again... I need to throw away the flame thrower sometimes... forgive me]. Jacob wanted to bring to light the fact that Unit testing is good in whatever form you do it, and the study that he tore into really proves that. 

That said Troy's article is pretty good... he [debatably] just misses the point that POUT and TSD (his new acronym) really mean the same thing...

Unit testing is good for your dev. work.  So now everyone go back to your coding (and hopefully POUTing).

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# re: Clarification on POUT... POUT != Test Last...

left by Troy DeMonbreun at 2/21/2008 10:56 AM Gravatar

I didn't miss Jacob's point at all, in fact I've spoken with him on the subject.  Jacob's POUT article doesn't mention test-first, so I wrote my article to discuss that.

And my comments ARE on and Jacob has posted his thoughts.  

# re: Clarification on POUT... POUT != Test Last...

left by jkimble at 2/21/2008 11:13 AM Gravatar

Ok, I edited this to not be so darn inflammatory... it really wasn't my intention... I just saw someone else's reference to Troy's article and they proclaimed that Troy had done something new (this bugged me a little).

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